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Car carry after a beer.

Postby Tonik » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:45 am

I swear, I searched a lot here first before asking what has probably already been asked.

So, tomorrow I can finally store my weapon in my car at work. I work at a school. Which raises the question, what happens if I go out for a beer after work with someone? Is unloaded in a case in the back of the vehicle ok? What if I have an SUV and no trunk? How should the mag be unloaded...ammo in a separate case?
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby JustaShooter » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:33 am

I'm not sure there is a definitive answer other than to not have the gun in the vehicle at all, or skipping the beer if you do. If it were me and I found myself unable or unwilling to abide by those restrictions, I would unload and transport as if I did not have a CHL. That means empty gun in a case and loaded mags in a separate enclosure (and I'd be tempted to unload the mags just to give an officer more ability to use discretion...). If vehicle has a trunk, that's where I'd put everything. If not, then if possible in a location that would require stopping the vehicle for the driver to access - all the way in the back of the SUV, etc.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby DontTreadOnMe » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:32 am

Tonik wrote:I swear, I searched a lot here first before asking what has probably already been asked.

So, tomorrow I can finally store my weapon in my car at work. I work at a school. Which raises the question, what happens if I go out for a beer after work with someone? Is unloaded in a case in the back of the vehicle ok? What if I have an SUV and no trunk? How should the mag be unloaded...ammo in a separate case?


Since you have a CHL, the prohibition against having a loaded gun in your car applies if you are under the influence. For the sake of argument I'll assume (1) having a single beer won't have that significant of an effect on you, and (2) you'll really just have 1 beer. In this case, you can store the firearm as you normally would.

Of course there's a difference between actually being under the influence, and what an arresting officer states in his report. If you want to be safe, then you should transport the firearm the same way you would if you didn't have your CHL. Unloaded, and stored so it isn't accessible without leaving the vehicle or in a closed package, box, or case. Note that unloaded will mean the loaded magazine is not in the gun and both the gun and magazine are stored in separate enclosures, as identified in 2923.16(K)(5)
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby Tonik » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:44 am

I am fine with that, this will be a very rare occurrence and I would be more than happy to unload and lock it in a case. I'll grab two cases, one for the weapon and one for the unloaded mag.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby carmen fovozzo » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:27 pm

None of those 32oz. beers either... :)
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby AzRanger » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:26 am

It's more important to me to have and keep my CCL than to have a beer after work. I would avoid drinking with a gun in my car even if it was just ONE beer. Why take the chance?
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby Tonik » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:29 am

AzRanger wrote:It's more important to me to have and keep my CCL than to have a beer after work. I would avoid drinking with a gun in my car even if it was just ONE beer. Why take the chance?


Valid point, and I had that realization as I was driving to work today on my own. If I have my gun, I am simply not going to drink. I really appreciate all of you talking me through this.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby ArmedAviator » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:46 am

I've found it easier and cheaper to use the fact that I am carrying as an excuse to not drink. Even going out with friends, I just generally don't drink. They know I carry and that's my reasoning. I just tell the bartender/waiter that I'm the DD (which I usually am) and no further questions arise. Everyone's happy.

In the rare occasion I do have a drink and I'm packing, I leave the gun in the car, usually loaded. Have my beer and wait plenty of time to process it (usually an entire meal, so an hour), and then re-holster it and drive on.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby carmen fovozzo » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:28 am

I eat out a lot.......which means I have saved a lot of money by not ordering wine or drinks with dinner.....unless of course I'm on a Winery excursion for the whole day in wine country...
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby Roller » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:41 pm

It is simple; If you are going to drink, even one drink of alcohol of any kind, then no gun. If you are going to carry your firearm, then no alcohol of any kind. Simple, concise and easy to remember. Why is it so important to have a beer after work?
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby pirateguy191 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:44 pm

Roller wrote:It is simple; If you are going to drink, even one drink of alcohol of any kind, then no gun. If you are going to carry your firearm, then no alcohol of any kind. Simple, concise and easy to remember. Why is it so important to have a beer after work?


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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby JediSkipdogg » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:43 pm

I see one beer as no different than one coke. Start adding up as more than one or two, and in my opinion both can de dangerous.

Sometimes I just feel a Sam Adams is betterbtasting than water or diet coke.

I'm probably in the minority that says one beer I wouldn't do anything different. Two I would unload. Three or more and I wouldn't even be driving so the firearm isn't even in the equation.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby carmen fovozzo » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:56 am

AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby Javelin Man » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:26 am

carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.


I understand you can't drink whilst armed, but what about armed after one beer? As in, gun stays in car when I hit the pub, I come out after a burnt burger, greasy fries and a Hamm's beer. I should be able to strap up and drive home after that.
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Re: Car carry after a beer.

Postby pirateguy191 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:33 am

carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.


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