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Re: No Mossberg shockwave for Ohio?

Postby JustaShooter » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:29 pm

marca wrote:It has not been settled whether or not it is legal in Ohio. Many Ohio gun stores sell them. If you are not willing to be the test case, then leave it home.


There, fixed that for you... ;)
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Re: No Mossberg shockwave for Ohio?

Postby JimE » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:40 pm

djthomas wrote:
JimE wrote:Reg's state that only "longguns", i.e. rifles and shotguns can be transferred to an out-of state resident, same as AR lowers.

To be precise, both the GCA and the regs specifically say "rifle or shotgun" when referring to what an out-of-state resident can purchase from an FFL. The term long gun doesn't appear anywhere.


I should have been more precise, but in the instructions for the 4473, (page 5, section B, question 16) for "other " firearms, states that only "long guns (rifles & shotguns)" can be sold to those under 21, and cannot not be transferred to non-residents of the state in which the purchase is made. The different sections of law are quoted on the form.
I have a .pdf copy of the current 4473, but I can't get the stupid thing to let me copy that section of text.

Personally, I would love to have one of those. I've handled them, (not shot) and with the right load *should* be controllable. Be a great house gun (except for the noise).
So it would be nice to see this cleaned up, but I am afraid the legislature is going to take about 10 years to get around to it, and I don't want to be a test case.
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Re: No Mossberg shockwave for Ohio?

Postby steves 50de » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:21 pm

JustaShooter wrote:
marca wrote:It has not been settled whether or not it is legal in Ohio. Many Ohio gun stores sell them. If you are not willing to be the test case, then leave it home.


There, fixed that for you... ;)

Would the county sheriff have to issue a D.O. permit or is it a may issue. :?: Or tell you to get lost.
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Re: No Mossberg shockwave for Ohio?

Postby JustaShooter » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:36 am

steves 50de wrote:Would the county sheriff have to issue a D.O. permit or is it a may issue. :?: Or tell you to get lost.

The way the law is written it almost looks like a "shall issue" law, but then the details get in the way (surprising, right?) On the one hand it says:

(A) Upon application to the sheriff of the county or safety director or police chief of the municipality where the applicant resides or has his principal place of business, and upon payment of the fee specified in division (B) of this section, a license or temporary permit shall be issued to qualified applicants to acquire, possess, carry, or use dangerous ordnance, for the following purposes:


But to be a qualified applicant you don't just need a clean record, the qualification that most of us would need to shoot for is:

(5) In the discretion of the issuing authority, any responsible person, with respect to dangerous ordnance lawfully acquired, possessed, carried, or used for a legitimate research, scientific, educational, industrial, or other proper purpose.


So, is possessing a Shockwave to take it to the range to shoot for fun a "proper purpose" - and even if it is, it's still at the discretion of the issuing authority to decide if you are a responsible person that they want to issue a license to. A solidly pro-gun SO probably would issue one to a person with a CHL, bot others? Who knows.
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Re: No Mossberg shockwave for Ohio?

Postby BEAR! » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:37 pm

So from what I saw in a lawyer video I could own a Shockwave in Ohio if I file a form BSSA-1 with my county Sheriff and pay $50..... so anyone have a clue where one might find this form?
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