Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

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Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

Postby Bruenor » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:24 am

This series is ongoing and several articles have been posted.

March 7th
'Guns, an American Conversation' project seeks Ohio voices
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... ation.html
A coalition of American newsrooms is launching a new kind of public service journalism project, bringing together 150 people in a closed, month-long moderated Facebook group to discuss guns, and other related political and social issues. To do this, we're working with the journalism organization Spaceship Media, using their method of Dialogue Journalism for convening people on opposite sides of difficult social and political issues into sustained, moderated, journalism-supported conversations.

April 18
Civil talk about guns? See Americans make it happen
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ss ... _amer.html
This is a meet the participants article

April 19
Should the AR-15 and other semi-automatic weapons be regulated? 'Guns: An American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... sem_1.html
So-called assault rifles, and the AR-15 in particular, get heavy debate because the AR-15 has been used in mass shootings in Newtown, Connecticut (27 dead); San Bernardino, California (14 dead); Las Vegas (58 dead); Sutherland Springs, Texas (26 dead), and Parkland, Florida (17 dead).

As bad as those numbers are -- and no one in the group disputes that -- AR-15 fans point out that the use of rifles of all kinds account for just a sliver of all firearms deaths in which the kind of weapon was known: 317 murders involving all rifles nationwide in 2016, compared with 7,015 handguns, according to FBI statistics.

April 20th
Should America try a buy-back program to reduce gun violence? 'Guns: An American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... -back.html
According to the 2014 book "The Gun Debate: What Everyone Needs to Know," by Philip J. Cook and Kristin A. Goss, buy-backs are not effective in combating gun violence. Cook and Goss say that without any significant ban outlawing certain types of firearms - which are protected by the Second Amendment -- many of the guns brought to these types of events are in shabby shape.

"Unsurprisingly people are inclined to turn in guns that are no longer useful - they have become redundant, given all the other guns owned by the individual," they write.

April 24th
Should gun safety training be taught in schools? 'Guns, an American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... ng_be.html
But what if students were taught, too, about gun handling and safety? What if that were part of the school curriculum?

The goal wouldn't be "to create Rambo," said Jon Godfrey, of Parish, New York. Rather, it would be "to create safe life knowledge."

April 26th
3 ideas to reduce gun violence emerged from my conversations with 150 Americans | Opinion
http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index. ... lence.html
In 2012, NOLA.com reported that approximately 70 percent of all of the illegal guns on the street of New Orleans came from unlocked vehicles. Mobile Police Chief Lawrence Batiste said recently the No. 1 item stolen out of vehicles in Mobile is guns.

Thieves aren't doing some stealthy maneuver to gain access to these vehicles, either, officials say. All they are doing is going to your parked vehicle in your driveway or your carport and pulling on the door handle.

April 27th
What women who carry or don't carry guns say about personal safety: 'Guns: An American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... ont_c.html
Women own guns as a way to protect themselves at a much higher rate than men, a recent study shows.

The 2017 Pew Research Center report revealed 27 percent of women gun owners cite protection as the only reason they own a gun, compared to eight percent for men.

I did not see any comments from women who carry, so not much of a conversation in this one..
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Re: Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

Postby TSiWRX » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:09 am

Interesting reads. Thank you.
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Re: Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

Postby Bruenor » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:53 am

Went to update this and couldn't find it.. Figured out I posted it in the wrong forum.. Oh well.

Gun owners are frustrated by conflicting concealed carry laws: 'Guns: An American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... _by_c.html

The International Association of Chiefs of Police, which represents 18,000 police departments in the United States, sent a letter on the topic to Congress on April 19.

The letter said that to allow people to freely cross state boundaries with their weapons, even if licensed in a different state, would be "a dangerous encroachment on individual state efforts to protect public safety, and it would effectively nullify duly enacted state laws and hamper law enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence."

"Mandated reciprocity would effectively override the permitting requirements of individual states, such as requiring safety training or prohibiting permits for people with multiple convictions for violent misdemeanors or drug or alcohol abuse problems," the letter said.


Interesting how everyone is buying that reciprocity negates the state laws.
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Re: Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

Postby Bruenor » Thu May 03, 2018 6:30 am

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... _from.html

The real gun-violence crisis related to mental illness is suicide, which accounts for about two-thirds of all firearm deaths, according to Swanson.

The extraordinary nature of mass shootings leads to more media attention than daily gun violence, however.


Law enforcement officers stand outside a Waffle House in Nashville, Tenn., where four people were killed and two were wounded after a gunman opened fire on April 22.
"It's a such a frightening and disturbing, irrational event, people want an explanation for it. They want a sort of master, simple explanation," said Swanson, "And they get one. We hear these voices in the public square, whether it's lawmakers or the NRA (National Rifle Association) come out and say this is about mental illness, so let's fix the mental-health problem so we can solve gun violence."

Is the gun lobby right to say mental illness is the problem and not access to firearms?
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Postby Bruenor » Fri May 04, 2018 6:31 am

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... _chil.html

How do you talk with your children about gun violence? 'Guns: An American Conversation'

"I explain that schools are still the safest institution in America, and that their school is doing everything it can to keep them safe. At the same time, I am realistic that bad people will always exist to do bad things, and so we should be aware of our surroundings and know how to react."

"I spoke with my children about the Parkland shooting," said Kimberly Gobla Krupka, of Bath, Pennsylvania, the mother of a 13-year-old and a 15-year-old. She said she "stressed they are very safe. We discussed there are 50.1 million children in the U.S. who attend school daily. The risk of being shot is less than .0001%.
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Postby Bruenor » Thu May 10, 2018 7:31 am

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... could.html

What would be 1 thing we could do to reduce gun violence? An interactive discussion

Concentrating on income inequality and poverty. Improving mental health. Creating universal background checks. Mandating liability insurance for gun owners. Stomping out racism.

These were among the themes in answers given to us by average Americans who sought to have an honest discussion on gun violence in a monthlong closed Facebook group as part of our special project, "Guns, an American Conversation."
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Re: Guns; An American Conversation - ongoing article series

Postby M-Quigley » Fri May 11, 2018 8:16 pm

Bruenor wrote:Went to update this and couldn't find it.. Figured out I posted it in the wrong forum.. Oh well.

Gun owners are frustrated by conflicting concealed carry laws: 'Guns: An American Conversation'
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.s ... _by_c.html

The International Association of Chiefs of Police, which represents 18,000 police departments in the United States, sent a letter on the topic to Congress on April 19.

The letter said that to allow people to freely cross state boundaries with their weapons, even if licensed in a different state, would be "a dangerous encroachment on individual state efforts to protect public safety, and it would effectively nullify duly enacted state laws and hamper law enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence."

"Mandated reciprocity would effectively override the permitting requirements of individual states, such as requiring safety training or prohibiting permits for people with multiple convictions for violent misdemeanors or drug or alcohol abuse problems," the letter said.




Interesting how everyone is buying that reciprocity negates the state laws.


For some people in a political discussion, it doesn't have to be true, it just has to sound true to the uninformed. :(
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